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Post by prozental on May 14, 2018 9:12:36 GMT
Greetings! I’m pleased to be among you. It’s perhaps that place where we all can get support.
Everyone can share experience here. I gonna tell my story in brief. It’s about my TTC effort.
I wanted to have a baby before I got married. I had a partner. He wasn’t ready to become parent thus we broke up. Then I met my future husband.
At the beginning we tried hard to get pregnant. Then we conducted home insemination as learnt from Internet. Also we changed our lifestyle completely.
Honestly, my man is short and plump. He’s got a tummy. He had to go sports in order to improve his health.
I started doing exercises and jogging as well. I didn’t understand why I couldn’t get pregnant. What’s wrong with me?
First of all, we thought it was a problem of my husband’s sperm. I guess it was something with his sperm motility. In fact it was my big mistake. He was as strong as an ox.
To my big surprise he had ideal conditions. His semen has excellent quality. He could be a donor if he had his own children. It was clear, I myself couldn’t give birth.
After tests I was shocked. I was completely OK. It has showed my ovaries worked well.
Nothing worked out. I was admittedly infertile. We started planning IVF.
My first IVF I had in the US. It was such a creepy procedure for me. I felt weird.
After everything I understood we got nothing. It wasn’t surprise. In 5 months we had the same fail.
After my third attempt I got pregnant. I was in this amazing condition for about 4 weeks. HCG was very low. Then it was interrupted without outer reasons.
I didn’t know what to do. We were not ready to repeat it more and more. I heard and thought a lot of it before. Sometimes the women become involved in endless row of rounds.
We weren’t sure it would be good for us. The next IVF gave us the same failure. We decided four rounds were enough to stop it immediately.
It was a torture to continue such way. We decided to have a vacation. We were exhausted understatement.
In one year and half I underwent complete examination. The reasons weren’t detected. It was surely unexplained infertility.
Unfortunately, we faced the problem again. Having the high quality embryos we can’t even reach the BFP. We thought over on the other options.
Our decision was to find out more about surrogacy. We weren’t upset to much because we surrendered. In fact we just found another path.
The next problem was to find country and clinic. After Investigation we stopped on Greece clinic. We began with them but had to stop our relations. After our first failed attempt with our cells they weren’t polite enough for continuing.
This way we found Ukraine. We were happy as it was possibility to use my own eggs again. I was sure it must work. They allowed me to try twice.
It was the best present to me. I knew it was enough to succeed. We achieved BFP!! In two weeks after fertilization.. We were excited and proud of ourselves.
We got calmed. It supposed to be a wonderful journey. We didn’t see our surrogate but we are sure she’s doing well.
It’s the most important now. We are going to have twins. It was astonishing news.
It will be obviously the compensation for out trying. I already imagine how they will look like. It’s very exciting! Today is the 20th week of our pregnancy. How are you doing?
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Post by maxi96 on May 14, 2018 9:23:35 GMT
Hi dear! That’s really exciting to read! I was happy to find it. Accept my true congratulations!
Your progress makes me happy. I guess the real nerves are expecting for you in the future. Don’t you think so?
Unexplained infertility is too severe verdict. It’s maybe the most disappointing when you are healthy and not able to have a baby. I don’t know how you endured it.
What was wrong with Greece? Why Ukraine? Does it allow having surrogacy?
I’d like to hear more about destinations where it’s permitted. You know there are many countries banning such an opportunity. My best wishes dear!
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Post by prozental on May 14, 2018 9:42:37 GMT
Hi there! I’m grateful for your warm words! This means a lot for me. Your congratulations were necessary.
Of course there are a lot of women who had more torturing experience. I could tell only my story any way. This is the way I felt and fought.
Surrogacy is completely legal in Ukraine. It offers to have such program if you’re officially married. Are you planning for surrogacy?
I had no one to advise me. We’ve discovered it on internet and forums. There are many responsive and supportive people on forums, I’m sure.
That secures you’ll evidently get advice. Unexplained infertility is a hell. You are healthy but… it doesn’t give you advantage.
We didn’t want to spend much time losing hope. We decided and it was our choice. I’m glad because of it.
Ukraine is strange and attractive land. It’s not fully understandable for us. We like it anyway.
We trust our clinic’s staff. They have got a huge experience. We noticed they dis many things automatically.
We expected much from Greece. It was sadly our mistake. We heard about Ukraine long before we faced surrogacy. People all over discussed it. Of course it made us closer to try.
Now we like young people working in Ukraine. They kinda share their youth power with us. It gives energy and desire to move on.
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Post by maxi96 on May 14, 2018 10:59:01 GMT
Was it hard to get agreed as for surrogacy? Sometimes it’s too harrowing to start. I myself know it well.
I have my uterus removed. Surrogacy gives me a chance for parenting. Since childhood I dreamt to become a mother.
Several years I was suffering from cancer. The doctor said I had to go through hysterectomy. In fact it was a difficult surgery.
I left fat trace on my life. I was totally frustrated. I’m still feeling frustration.
My husband is my protection and shoulder. I try to forget all bad things with his help. All my life’s dedicated to struggling.
Even yesterday I didn’t expect it would be so difficult to start discussing it. We know surrogacy is available now. I need just to make a call and begin.
We’ve got money but I imagine that another woman will carry my babe. It’s killing me. It drives me crazy.
Every year the number of happy stories increases. People become parents. What could be more terrific?
I’m a real problem for my relatives. My husband can’t stand it because I’m unhappy. We should change all about it.
Can you tell more about Ukraine? I heard about loyal price policy. if there’s an affordable offer it’ll be great.
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Post by prozental on May 14, 2018 11:16:44 GMT
Your story is more dramatic even. There’s no way to give up. Come on, you aren’t the first who wins.
Surely, it’s hard to accept the first step in surrogacy. Many things seem unbearable. You’ve got to suppress them.
My husband was always beside me. We have fought doubts. You’d better do the same in your case.
I think the main idea of parenthood isn’t about pregnancy. This is your effort to make your babies kind people. They will need your care after delivery.
I feel more confident today. It wasn’t too difficult for us to start. What exactly do you want to know about this country?
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Post by prozental on May 14, 2018 11:41:38 GMT
Ukraine is often compared to the Georgia and the USA. These countries offer completely different conditions. If you’re interested in low costs the US isn’t for you.
You can find programs for 200k in the US. Perhaps the standard of living makes this difference. However, it’s weird to compare these two factories of happiness.
Making your sure, I’m satisfied with service I got in Ukraine. It’s high level of quality and such a cute hospitality. I’m pleased with my choice absolutely.
Also you’ll find great number of fertility clinics in Ukraine. That is the real freedom of choice. The laws are valid across the whole area of the country. It’s very comfortable.
You need surrogacy. You’ll find it there. It’s their main offer. What’s more do you want to know?
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Post by maxi96 on May 14, 2018 13:47:28 GMT
It’s really pleasant to know. You make me sure they correspond to the world’s standard. (I actually don’t even know what this standard means)
Reading your post I understood you didn’t select your surrogate. Am I right? Why? Isn’t it necessary for you?
You used your own eggs. This is perfect. I can only dream about it.
How is their service? I meant how they used to arrange all needed. It’s a foreign country, you know.
As for me, I’m really afraid of getting lost there. It’s easier if I’m next to my man. In any even they have to insure us.
Ukraine didn’t seem to me as a country of innovation. Is there modern equipment in Ukraine? Who treats patients?
I understand that children need more attention after pregnancy. A mother is that woman who educated and fostered them. Sometimes girls give birth and throw their babies.
They just can be called mothers. They are real beasts. And deserve hate. I will defeat heavy thoughts.
I merely don’t want to make loads of mistakes. I’ve already made them too much for one life. Excuse me if I ask many questions.
Most of them are stupid. I really may figure them out on Internet. It’ll be so kind of you to advise and help. Thank you in advance dear! xxx
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Post by prozental on May 14, 2018 14:07:42 GMT
No, it’s quite a modern place for having treatment. I wouldn’t probably want to live there but it’s nice. These are really nice place and people.
I got much pleasure meeting people who know French or English. They were awesome. I found them clever and very polite.
Don’t stick this point of view. Ukraine has already helped million people to become parents. Its methods and equipment work effectively.
I met people who are real fans of this destination. They had two visits for surrogacy there. I was also very suspicious toward this direction.
My clinic’s team solved my complication. You asked about surrogate and selection. I was wondering the same early on.
The doctor explained it to my thoroughly. It’s not our problem to match surrogate mother. They are completely responsible for matching.
The surrogate doesn’t have genetic relation to a baby. She just carries and cares. I suppose it does make sense.
Another deal when you can’t choose a donor. However I’m not competent enough to discuss this. They also have good donor base.
As for organization, they are pretty skilful at it. I guess that’s because of huge experience. We never faced an issue how to get to some place.
Everything was arranged by managers. It makes me feel relaxed. Do you have any question honey?
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Post by teslabb on May 21, 2018 13:46:05 GMT
Hello girls! Hello dear author! I’m not so long ago on this forum.
Hope I’ll not be too much annoying. I can relate to you completely. Unfortunately my problem isn’t so far from yours.
The goal to have a baby is pursuing me for last 5 years. I sadly didn’t succeed with IVF. The most breaking thing is that my problem isn’t related to my egg quality.
After implantation my embryos don’t survive. I thought it could be disorder of pH or something like that. In fact my lining is also appropriate.
Maybe it’s not appropriate as it doesn’t accept my embryos. It’s not the method to try donor’s egg. It wouldn’t work for us.
More than that I don’t understand how it’s possible. I’m still not close to this decision. My baby should be my flesh and my blood.
Sorry if it sounds too selfishly. I feel so. I’m not ready for these changes.
Maybe if I face another problem I’ll be less stubborn. Happily my husband agrees with me. It’s also essential for him.
5 years were filled with endless search and try. I guess we can delete them from memory off. They weren’t helpful in context of my own history.
Exactly, I’m sure they are my experience. But what should I do with it? Hah it’s amusing.
You illustrated what it must be in different circumstances. You overcame divorce. I guess your story was written by brave one.
Having failure for the first time is rough. When you failed over and over it makes you rough to everything. It can make you vulnerable and soft like a scar though.
It’s very hurtful to not know that the reason. I just try and face another failure. I get loss but don’t lose hope for the next round.
I’m just fan of your story. It’s good example how it’s fine to do. I wish you the best wishes.
I know how it could be hard to start. You share your experience and give hope to me. The 20th week is a half way. Good luck!
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Post by prozental on May 21, 2018 14:01:20 GMT
Hey! Thank you for your acknowledgement. You got excitement I got respect.
It’s very pleasant to read such answers. Despite I don’t consider my 21st week as a half way. It’s just beginning.
Moving further I feel more anxiety. I take care of myself. I don’t allow myself to worry.
All that I could control is good. The other things don’t depend on my attention. Anyway I’m losing sleep.
Why don’t I consider it as a half? After my children get born the big paper machine will start its working. We have to overcome complete paperwork process.
It’s very exhausting. In addition we’re obliged to look after our newborns. Neither I nor my husband understood how to treat babies properly.
We actually read a lot concerning to this topic. But you know what the use of it is. There’s good news.
Our clinic promises to provide us with nanny or babysitter. She’ll be teaching us how to look after babies besides she will feed them and wash up. Hope we’ll be patient students.
In case the clinic can’t provide it we will have to hire a babysitter by ourselves. It doesn’t matter how much it will cost. My babies must be cared and fed.
That’s why it can hardly be called as a half. What is your issue? Can you tell something regarding your struggle?
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Post by teslabb on May 21, 2018 14:38:47 GMT
Sure! Thanks. You’ve got such a clever position. You definitely should hire someone to help.
It’s too risky to try to learn on living creatures. I wish your sweet angels only the best first days. What about your surrogate?
Will she help you with children? Maybe you want to involve her in breast feeding? I’m not completely sure it works this way.
She’s pregnant thus she’ll have milk. It’s the best meal for them. Isn’t it? Maybe… okay.
Or I know some women stimulate mammary gland. Even if they didn’t carry they would be able to feed their babes. Is it regular service for your clinic to provide nannies?
A for me I am a hard IFV racer. I have already had 8 IVFs. It’s very similar to your case.
I failed before I even see BFP. It was only a one attempt that ended just after HCG test. It was officially pregnant.
Sadly to say it was too short experience to be true. After it I got only negative. I can’t stand it anymore.
I got interested reading your story because you stopped that all and tried surrogacy. I know 3 IVF failed are the reason to think where it’s worth it. Four ones are nice push to consider surrogacy.
Actually if you want to continue… as I want I decided to learn more. You perfectly described your case. I will be thinking over.
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Post by prozental on May 21, 2018 14:57:47 GMT
Yes, not only this. I don’t doubt they will provide. I have an alternate option just in case.
If I don’t like the nanny I’ll hire another on my expense. My husband agrees. Any way we hope nothing will go wrong.
If you decided to stop it perhaps you are right. If your doctor says the same it makes sense. Go ahead.
Besides that my clinic provides house keeper. She’s making food for us. If something is out of work they will send a repairer for us.
As well we don’t think much how to get to the clinic or any other place. We have a private driver. These and many others are our conveniences there.
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Post by amaru on May 29, 2018 10:35:51 GMT
Unfortunately I heard much bad about surrogates in Ukraine. Some say they live in awful conditions. Nobody observes them.
Anyone can become surrogate there. They receive actually much less money than all informed. It’s such a bad game.
The game is to save more cash on important things. I don’t know why people write these comments. I heard even more terrible stuff.
The medical team treats surrogates as prostitutes. They don’t believe in their responsible work. Someone cheats us.
We also know a little about cases of death and violation of the regime. The surrogates smoke cigarettes. They used to drink alcohol.
Some of them even do drugs. It’s hidden facts. None of clinics want to spoil reputation.
But it’s too troublesome to maintain complete control. It must be a man responsible and taking salary for that in particular. What the unsettling news!
Most of clinics try to assure they secure a good health state of surrogate. In fact they even don’t check it. There are too much of girls coming to them for work.
It’s impossible to examine all of them. That’s just physically impossible. Thus they accept everybody.
Perhaps they even don’t know their gender before gynecologist looks at her. I’m trying to not believe in that. Anyway could it be so without some real facts?
The same shit happens to their donors. I can’t understand how this machine can still work. It tells us about full incompetence.
I know people are able to imagine. Sometimes when we’re scared we imagine bizarre things. Or they just envy.
The truth is known by people like you. However it’s only a part of truth. You said you didn’t take part in ‘casting’.
I hope you’ve got another situation. Otherwise we should run away from this. We have to fight this terror.
It’s a crime toward us. This is disgusting attitude toward all humans. It must be considered as a crime.
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Post by prozental on May 29, 2018 11:10:17 GMT
No, I’m totally disagreed. There’s not a reason to imagine it. It really offends me.
It offends me as their client. It hurts my eyes because I am an honest person. These bullocks can’t be a truth.
Ukraine is a massive competitor at that field. Reproductive medicine became a real battlefield last years. Weak and rotten would have never achieved the top.
Look at this! Imagine BMW and Mercedes. What would it be if one of them started making shit?
The answer is on the surface. One of them would disappear. People would stop buying it.
It’s reasonable. As well as it can be applicable to surrogacy. If Ukraine was awful no one would visit it.
Who wants to gamble? Moreover, it relates to your future children. I see this is just people’s rumors.
It’s not worth attention. I receive information on her health conditions every month. She also gets money for meal and other needs.
It’s not priority for the clinic to lose their clients. Their status was being established during years. I don’t think they are ready to waste the years of work.
I’m confident in my facility. And I’m going to continue our cooperation. Don’t share untested rumors.
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Post by mathewserena12 on Jun 20, 2018 18:08:26 GMT
Dear, I am so happy for you! I went through IVF cycles but it didn't work out for me, unfortunately. I am now trying for surrogacy and I hope it works out for me too as it did for you!
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